Legislature(2011 - 2012)CAPITOL 120

04/11/2012 08:00 AM House MILITARY & VETERANS' AFFAIRS


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08:09:54 AM Start
08:10:24 AM SJR20
08:23:13 AM Adjourn
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+= SJR 20 RELOCATION OF 18TH F-16 SQUADRON TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
   HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON MILITARY AND VETERANS' AFFAIRS                                                                  
                         April 11, 2012                                                                                         
                           8:09 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Dan Saddler, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Steve Thompson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Bob Miller                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carl Gatto, Vice Chair (deceased April 10, 2012)                                                                 
Representative Alan Austerman                                                                                                   
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 20                                                                                                  
Relating to Eielson Air Force Base and the strategic importance                                                                 
of retaining the 18th F- 16 Aggressor Squadron in the Fairbanks                                                                 
North Star Borough.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED SJR 20 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SJR 20                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: RELOCATION OF 18TH F-16 SQUADRON                                                                                   
SPONSOR(s): STATE AFFAIRS BY REQUEST                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
03/28/12       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/28/12       (S)       STA                                                                                                    
04/03/12       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/03/12       (S)       Moved SJR 20 Out of Committee                                                                          
04/03/12       (S)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
04/04/12       (S)       STA RPT 5DP                                                                                            
04/04/12       (S)       DP: WIELECHOWSKI, KOOKESH, PASKVAN,                                                                    
                         MEYER, GIESSEL                                                                                         
04/06/12       (S)       TRANSMITTED TO (H)                                                                                     
04/06/12       (S)       VERSION: SJR 20                                                                                        
04/09/12       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/09/12       (H)       MLV                                                                                                    
04/10/12       (H)       MLV AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
04/10/12       (H)       Scheduled But Not Heard                                                                                
04/11/12       (H)       MLV AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ANNA SORENSEN, Staff                                                                                                            
Senator Joe Paskvan                                                                                                             
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  On behalf  of Senator Paskvan, Vice Chair of                                                             
the Senate State Affairs Committee, sponsor, presented SJR 20.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
LUKE HOPKINS, Mayor                                                                                                             
Fairbanks North Star Borough (FNSB)                                                                                             
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of SJR 20.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:09:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  STEVE THOMPSON  called the  House Special  Committee on                                                             
Military  and Veterans'  Affairs meeting  back to  order at  8:09                                                               
a.m.   Present  at the  call back  to order  were Representatives                                                               
Thompson, Lynn, Miller, and Saddler.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
            SJR 20-RELOCATION OF 18TH F-16 SQUADRON                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:10:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  THOMPSON  announced that  the  only  order of  business                                                               
would be SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION  NO. 20, Relating to Eielson Air                                                               
Force Base and the strategic  importance of retaining the 18th F-                                                               
16 Aggressor Squadron in the Fairbanks North Star Borough.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:11:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNA  SORENSEN,   Staff,  Senator   Joe  Paskvan,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  presented SJR  20  on behalf  of  the Senate  State                                                               
Affairs Standing Committee, sponsor,  on which Senator Paskvan is                                                               
Vice Chair.   She paraphrased  the sponsor statement,  which read                                                               
as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The  United  States  Air   Force  has  recommended  the                                                                    
     relocation  of the  18th F-16  Aggressor Squadron  from                                                                    
     Eielson  Air Force  Base  located  in Interior  Alaska.                                                                    
     Senator Paskvan,  along with countless  other Alaskans,                                                                    
     believe [sic] that this is wrong.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     This move  will have  dramatic impact on  the Fairbanks                                                                    
     and  Interior Alaska  economies,  and  will reduce  the                                                                    
     operational   capabilities   at  Eielson,   making   it                                                                    
     vulnerable  in  future  [Defense Base  Realignment  and                                                                    
     Closure  Act (BRAC)]  rounds.   This is  detrimental to                                                                    
     our  entire   state.     The  benefits   and  strategic                                                                    
     importance of Eielson  AFB now and into  the future far                                                                    
     outweigh  any   negligible  savings  achieved   by  the                                                                    
     transfer of the F-16 squadron.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Eielson is  at the  forefront of protecting  the United                                                                    
     States interests  in the Pacific  Theater and  serves a                                                                    
     critical function in reinforcing  the region.  It helps                                                                    
     to secure  important oil infrastructure,  including the                                                                    
     Trans-Alaska  Pipeline and  the  refineries located  in                                                                    
     Interior Alaska.  The  Trans-Alaska Pipeline supplies a                                                                    
     significant  portion  of  our  nation's  energy  needs.                                                                    
     Eielson  AFB also  has adjacent  access to  the largest                                                                    
     joint  air  and land  training  range  and the  largest                                                                    
     unrestricted airspace in the  United States.  This area                                                                    
     has minimal  airspace congestion and is  well-suited to                                                                    
     perform   operations   for  live-fire   exercises   and                                                                    
     unmanned  vehicles that  are critical  to 21st  century                                                                    
     combat capabilities.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Further, Eielson  has a  large fuel  storage capability                                                                    
     and  a runway  capable  of handling  the armed  forces'                                                                    
     largest aircraft year around.   Movement of the 18th F-                                                                    
     16 Aggressor Squadron  puts Eielson AFB at  risk.  This                                                                    
     base  has served  America's interests  for decades  and                                                                    
     because  of  its  location, should  continue  to  serve                                                                    
     America's  interests.   The base  has access  to unique                                                                    
     training  grounds,  fuel  storage,  ample  housing  for                                                                    
     servicemen and  women and their families,  and provides                                                                    
     critical support for joint  training exercises.  During                                                                    
     the  2005  base  closure  and  realignment  rounds  the                                                                    
     strategic  and  economic   importance  of  Eielson  was                                                                    
     proved.    Just   as  the  community-at-large,  elected                                                                    
     officials,  retired  military personnel,  and  business                                                                    
     leaders spoke  in support of  Eielson seven  years ago,                                                                    
     this resolution  seeks to remind the  President and the                                                                    
     Air Force that the F-16s should stay at Eielson AFB.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:14:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLER  recalled the Pentagon, U.S.  Department of                                                               
Defense (DoD),  was requested to provide  actual economic numbers                                                               
regarding  the amount  of savings  expected from  the relocation,                                                               
and he asked whether that information has been received.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SORENSEN   related  her  understanding  that   it  has  been                                                               
difficult to  obtain information from  the U. S. Air  Force ("Air                                                               
Force")  regarding the  decision it  is  making.   At this  time,                                                               
there is  a decision-making group  visiting Eielson AFB  and Fort                                                               
Richardson that is collecting information for analysis.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:15:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN noted  that the  Air Force  is alleging  the                                                               
move is to save money, and he  questioned the basis for this.  He                                                               
asked  how moving  the F-16s  to Joint  Base Elmendorf-Richardson                                                               
(JBER) from Eielson AFB would save money.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. SORENSEN  said part of her  concern is that there  would only                                                               
be  minimal  savings at  best,  because  there is  less  adequate                                                               
housing for  families at JBER.   In addition, there would  be the                                                               
need to  regularly transport all  of the F-16s back  to Fairbanks                                                               
for training,  which is  quite expensive.   She related  that the                                                               
Fairbanks North  Star Borough (FNSB)  and Senator Paskvan  do not                                                               
believe there would be any savings.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN  surmised  returning   to  Eielson  AFB  for                                                               
missions -  considering the price of  jet fuel - would  be pretty                                                               
expensive.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. SORENSEN said yes.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:16:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER expressed his support  of the base and the                                                               
value  of the  F-16  squadron  and its  mission.    In fact,  the                                                               
legislature has  taken steps in support  of all the bases  in the                                                               
state.   He said he  supported the  intent of the  resolution and                                                               
asked  why it  is important  to  have a  specific resolution  for                                                               
Eielson AFB.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SORENSEN explained that because  a decision-making group will                                                               
soon  visit Eielson  AFB, the  sponsor felt  it was  important to                                                               
show  specific support  for the  base as  it "seems  to be  their                                                               
target at this point."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:18:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LUKE HOPKINS, Mayor,  FNSB, stated that Fairbanks has  a group of                                                               
citizens  - which  includes staff  from the  Alaska Congressional                                                               
Delegation -  who question the  validity of the proposed  move of                                                               
the F-16s  in terms of the  cost savings.  His  experience during                                                               
base  reallocation and  closure  (BRAC) proceedings  in 2005  was                                                               
that work by  the community brought forward  different numbers in                                                               
cost savings and operational expenses  than were presented by the                                                               
BRAC  commission.    Mr.  Hopkins   said  issues  raised  by  the                                                               
community have  not been adequately  apprised and  cost estimates                                                               
from officials have  not been released.  Although  it is unclear,                                                               
Mr. Hopkins warned  there may be intent "to BRAC"  Eielson AFB in                                                               
2013,  even  though  its location  holds  geographical  strategic                                                               
importance in the new Pacific/Asia  defense strategy.  He advised                                                               
that the Fairbanks group will  continue to ask questions and work                                                               
with   the   congressional   delegation,   acknowledging   budget                                                               
concerns,  but  questioning  the  savings from  moving  the  F-16                                                               
training squadron  to Anchorage.   Mr. Hopkins urged  the passage                                                               
of SJR 20 as fast as possible.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:21:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  THOMPSON,  upon  determining  no  one  else  wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR THOMPSON observed that  the proposal is also devastating                                                               
to the  military families  of the  1,500 active  military members                                                               
who would  be moved  to JBER;  for example,  there is  not enough                                                               
housing.   In addition, he estimated  between 200 and 300  of the                                                               
transferred  military families  own  homes in  Fairbanks and  the                                                               
sales of  these homes will cause  prices to plummet.   He pointed                                                               
out that - unlike the circumstances  during a BRAC transfer - the                                                               
federal government  will not purchase  the mortgages  of families                                                               
who are transferred.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:22:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  moved to report  SJR 20 out  of committee                                                               
with individual recommendations and  the accompanying zero fiscal                                                               
notes.  There being no objection,  SJR 20 was reported out of the                                                               
House Special Committee on Military and Veterans' Affairs.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:23:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Special Committee on Military and Veterans' Affairs meeting was                                                                 
adjourned at 8:23 a.m.                                                                                                          

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